# EM and time of day

**URL:** <https://forum.livingwitherythromelalgia.org/t/em-and-time-of-day/3747>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [February 2, 2019, 12:23am UTC](https://forum.livingwitherythromelalgia.org/t/em-and-time-of-day/3747 "2019-02-02T00:23:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Jason](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitherythromelalgia.org/jason/32/648_2.png) [@Jason](https://forum.livingwitherythromelalgia.org/u/Jason)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 12:23am UTC](https://forum.livingwitherythromelalgia.org/t/em-and-time-of-day/3747/1 "2019-02-02T00:23:53Z")

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My EM is always worse at night. Is that common?

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**Author:** ![leosinho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85e7bf/32.png) [@leosinho](https://forum.livingwitherythromelalgia.org/u/leosinho)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 1:02am UTC](https://forum.livingwitherythromelalgia.org/t/em-and-time-of-day/3747/2 "2019-02-02T01:02:33Z")

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Yes.

Whats your symptoms? Do you have pain?

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**Author:** ![Jason](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitherythromelalgia.org/jason/32/648_2.png) [@Jason](https://forum.livingwitherythromelalgia.org/u/Jason)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2019, 1:24pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitherythromelalgia.org/t/em-and-time-of-day/3747/3 "2019-02-02T13:24:29Z")

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Feet swell and burn. Yes very painful. I get attacks sometimes  
during the day, but I get them EVERY night after dinner without  
fail. I was wondering if other EM patients experienced the same  
thing.

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Jim
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**Author:** ![CarterDK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/0ea827/32.png) [@CarterDK](https://forum.livingwitherythromelalgia.org/u/CarterDK)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 12:53am UTC](https://forum.livingwitherythromelalgia.org/t/em-and-time-of-day/3747/4 "2019-02-03T00:53:07Z")

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> [@Jason](#):
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> Is that common?

Yes.

The parasympathetic nervous system is one of the divisions of the the autonomic nervous system, which regulates the body’s unconscious actions. It is commonly thought of as the “rest and digest” system. The parasympathetic nervous system predominates at night and is active after meals, enhancing blood flow through vasodilation (among other things). This worsens EM symptoms.

The sympathetic nervous system is active during the day, particularly after waking. It enables the opposite reactions, which is why your EM is better earlier in the day.

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**Author:** ![Jason](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitherythromelalgia.org/jason/32/648_2.png) [@Jason](https://forum.livingwitherythromelalgia.org/u/Jason)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 1:32pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitherythromelalgia.org/t/em-and-time-of-day/3747/5 "2019-02-03T13:32:28Z")

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That makes sense. What’s the best treatment these days?

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**Author:** ![CarterDK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/0ea827/32.png) [@CarterDK](https://forum.livingwitherythromelalgia.org/u/CarterDK)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitherythromelalgia.org/t/em-and-time-of-day/3747/6 "2019-02-03T18:44:33Z")

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Unfortunately, there isn’t a single “best” treatment. In the absence of concomitant disease, a sodium channel blocker may be considered a first line therapy. Treatment for most still ends up a trial and error process.

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**Author:** ![afarage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@afarage](https://forum.livingwitherythromelalgia.org/u/afarage)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2019, 8:24pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitherythromelalgia.org/t/em-and-time-of-day/3747/7 "2019-02-04T20:24:19Z")

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Mine is always worse at night…

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**Author:** ![Jason](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitherythromelalgia.org/jason/32/648_2.png) [@Jason](https://forum.livingwitherythromelalgia.org/u/Jason)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2019, 1:57pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitherythromelalgia.org/t/em-and-time-of-day/3747/8 "2019-02-05T13:57:18Z")

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Yes, somebody else said it’s because EM affects the parasympathetic  
nervous system, and that system is more active at night. That seems  
to make sense. How long have you had it?

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Jim
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**Author:** ![CarterDK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/0ea827/32.png) [@CarterDK](https://forum.livingwitherythromelalgia.org/u/CarterDK)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2019, 7:38am UTC](https://forum.livingwitherythromelalgia.org/t/em-and-time-of-day/3747/9 "2019-02-07T07:38:19Z")

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> [@Jason](#):
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> somebody else said it’s because EM affects the parasympathetic  
> nervous system

Just to clarify, EM doesn’t affect the parasympathetic nervous system itself. EM is caused by vascular hyperemia and that is worsened when the parasympathetic nervous system is activated.

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**Author:** ![Deni\_W\_B](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitherythromelalgia.org/deni_w_b/32/249_2.png) [@Deni\_W\_B](https://forum.livingwitherythromelalgia.org/u/Deni_W_B)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 6:19pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitherythromelalgia.org/t/em-and-time-of-day/3747/10 "2019-02-23T18:19:56Z")

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Evening is always the worst time. I have found an Industrial Hemp CBD salve that helps calm my feet and reduce the burning and swelling.  
It has really helped me sleep better too.

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**Author:** ![Isabella\_Ann](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.livingwitherythromelalgia.org/isabella_ann/32/396_2.png) [@Isabella\_Ann](https://forum.livingwitherythromelalgia.org/u/Isabella_Ann)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 9:02pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitherythromelalgia.org/t/em-and-time-of-day/3747/11 "2020-01-19T21:02:42Z")

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My feet are really bad at night in bed so much so that I feel I can’t go on anymore. My hands burn like hell also, I’m absolutely knackered in the morning because I can’t get any sleep. Help please?

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**Author:** ![CarterDK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/0ea827/32.png) [@CarterDK](https://forum.livingwitherythromelalgia.org/u/CarterDK)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 10:19pm UTC](https://forum.livingwitherythromelalgia.org/t/em-and-time-of-day/3747/12 "2020-01-19T22:19:56Z")

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I would make a list of all treatment approaches you have tried, cross reference it with the list of treatments found on pages 5-12 in the PDF linked below from The Erythromelalgia Association, and write down the treatments you have not tried yet. Hopefully that will provide you with some new avenues to investigate with your doctor.

If you are thinking about imminently harming yourself, please contact emergency services first.

> **[TEA-PatientGuideBook-1.pdf](https://erythromelalgia.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/TEA-PatientGuideBook-1.pdf)**
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