# Serotonin reuptake inhibitors

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Hi everyone,

Has anyone has any success with the serotonin reuptake treatment option?. As you know i am trialing sodium channel blockers and seeing subtle changes especially in cramps. As the 2 are compatible I have decided to also start SNRI therapy taking Venlafaxine(Effexor) at 75 mg day increasing up to 375 mg day.

Be interesting to hear your experiences or views.

Lets keep sharing and moving forward

God bless

mads

**Serotonin/Norepinephrine Reuptake Inhibitors (SNRIs)**  
SNRIs increase serotonin and norepinephrine in the nervous system and provide substantial benefit for some EM patients. Effexor (venlafaxine) has been reported many times in medical journals to help EM, but it fails sometimes too. Cymbalta (duloxetine) has also provided benefit for many.  
  
**Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors (SSRIs)**  
This group increases serotonin in the nervous system. There are a handful of case reports of benefit with sertraline (Zoloft), fluoxetine (Prozac), or paroxetine (Paxil). For Tramadol (Ultram), which increases serotonin by the different mechanism, there is one report of benefit.

[http://medicationsense.com/articles/2012/emtreatment.html](http://medicationsense.com/articles/2012/emtreatment.html)

Article from Dermatology Times.USA.

May 15, 2002   
By: Cheryl Guttman   
  
  
Venlafaxine improves primary erythromelalgia   
  
  
New Orleans - Results from an open pilot study indicate venlafaxine   
(Effexor), a combined norepinephrine and serotonin reuptake   
inhibitor, may be a safe and effective treatment for primary   
erythromelalgia, Ali Moiin, M.D., and Sharam S. Yashar, M.D., said at   
the annual meeting of the American Academy of Dermatology.   
They presented their experience using venlafaxine 37.5 mg BID to   
treat 10 subjects. A diagnosis of primary erythromelalgia was   
established after investigations to rule out other causes for the   
patients' signs and symptoms, and all existing medications being used   
for their condition were withdrawn.  
  
At one week after starting treatment with venlafaxine, marked   
improvement, in the range of 30 percent to 40 percent, was noted by   
the investigators in the severity and extent of skin warmth and   
erythema, and the patients reported reduction of symptoms of pain and   
burning as well. Further benefit was gained with continued treatment,   
and by two months, some patients were rated as improved 80 percent   
from baseline.   
  
These favorable responses occurred with minimal side effects. Two   
patients developed nausea and one patient discontinued treatment due   
to drowsiness. Currently, six patients are being followed on chronic   
treatment that ranges from six months to four years in duration and   
they are continuing to derive benefit and are very satisfied as well,   
said Dr. Moiin, clinical assistant professor of dermatology, Wayne   
State University, Detroit, and president, Comprehensive Dermatology   
Center, Detroit.  
  
"A variety of medications can be used to treat primary   
erythromelalgia, including aspirin, gabapentin, opiates,   
benzodiazepines, and amitriptyline. The response to those agents is   
variable and importantly, they are associated with significant side   
effects. Venlafaxine appears to perform well relative to those   
options in terms of efficacy, but it has the advantage of offering a   
more favorable safety profile with long-term use,"said Dr. Moiin. "No   
conclusions can be drawn from this small, open-label trial, and we   
cannot rule out the possibility of a placebo effect. However, based   
on venlafaxine's promising potential for efficacy and safety, we plan   
to conduct a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study with   
more objective measurements to document clinical improvement. The   
limiting factor in conducting that trial will be our ability to   
recruit patients with this relatively rare disorder."   
  
Venlafaxine is approved for the treatment of depression, and has been   
used as well for the management of obsessive-compulsive disorder and   
anxiety. The 75 mg/day dose that has been effective in the patients   
with erythromelalgia represents the recommended starting dose for   
antidepressant treatment with venlafaxine. Its maximum recommended   
dose is 375 mg/day.   
  
Dr. Moiin noted he was prompted to try venlafaxine to manage   
erythromelalgia based on a published report describing success in two   
patients. Previously, he had prescribed serotoninergic   
antidepressants, including paroxetine (Paxil) and fluoxetine   
(Prozac), for some patients with erythromelalgia, but found those   
agents were ineffective. Based on that experience, Dr. Moiin and Dr.   
Yashar postulate the noradrenergic activity of venlafaxine is   
important in its efficacy.  
  
"The pathogenesis of primary erythromelalgia is not known for   
certain, but histologic studies of affected skin show evidence of   
decreased sympathetic innervation and deficient sympathetic   
regulation. By inhibiting norepinephrine reuptake, venlafaxine may   
address those defects," said Dr. Yashar, dermatology resident at   
Henry Ford Hospital, Detroit.   
  
Via its serotoninergic effects, venlafaxine could alter platelet   
function and reduce platelet plug formation that might contribute to   
symptoms of erythromelalgia.  
  
Anticoagulant effects pull trigger  
  
"There is thought that erythromelalgia-associated pain might arise   
from clumping and coagulation of platelets in the small vessels of   
the extremities. In fact, it is believed that the benefit associated   
with aspirin treatment is due at least in part to its anticoagulant   
effects. Studies with venlafaxine and selective serotonin reuptake   
inhibitors show they can affect platelets, and perhaps the activity   
of venlafaxine is mediated at that level as well," Dr. Yashar said.  
  
Dr. Moiin proposed that the mechanism of venlafaxine's efficacy might   
also be secondary to some effects at the level of the central nervous   
system and not due wholly to peripheral activity.   
  
"Recent studies report a role of venlafaxine in treating hot flashes   
in postmenopausal women and in men receiving hormonal ablation   
therapy for prostate cancer. Those findings would suggest venlafaxine   
can affect the peripheral vasculature through a central mechanism,"   
Dr. Moiin said.  
  
Effexor is a product of Wyeth-Ayerst. Neither Dr. Moiin nor Dr.   
Yashar has any financial interest in the product. DT
