MTHFR mutations c677T and a1298c

Hi all , My Daughter went through very similar responses to the drugs you mention, cymbalta was horrible she became a shell of her former self and it was painful to watch.

I have mentioned in a previous post that low dose Naltrexone at 4.5 mg has been a miracle drug for us. It takes around six to eight weeks to become truly effective. My Daughter is in that and 37.5 mg if duloxetine and has her flatescso significantly reduced She is back participanting in life. Please have a look at low dose Naltrexone, it’s cheap and effective

Hi Patricia,

I was wondering how much the lidocaine IV helps you, and if you had side effects. My doctor last week suggested it, and I think I’m going to pursue it. Did you ever try lidocaine topical/patches? Or ever a more serious multi-day lidocaine infusion? I think they’re thinking of an outpatient procedure for me right now.

Glad it seems you haven’t needed one recently!! That’s great news :slight_smile:

Best,

Cat

@Satochan BTW, I’m a man so it’s Mr. No worries, just setting the record straight. I sent you a PM as we both live in north Texas and wanted to compare doctors and also discuss CDBs. Please respond when you can.

thx

Dear Cat,
Please forgive me for being so tardy. I open my email and 176 messages, I get rid of a few business stuff and get frustrated and close it. About the lidocaine infusions. It lasts 5 hours because it has to drip slowly. My dr is in Dallas, 22miles south of me. He’s a primadonna and sometimes get to the office an hour or so late. I get the IV and get out at commuter traffic time. Last time it two 2 hours to go 22 miles. I have stress related hypertension, it was 150/105. Not good. The infusion works. I only get one when I’ve had a prolonged severe burning.
So, how iti run on (ADD). I hope it helped you as much as it did me. P😌

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Cat! I forgot to tell you I’ve tried compounded lidocaine but I didn’t help me. P

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Hi P!

Thanks so much for getting back to me. No worries about the tardiness, I know how it goes with email :stuck_out_tongue:

Can I ask how long the pain relief lasts from the lidocaine?

I just got back from my first pain dr. appt (should have seen a pain dr much sooner… they seemed very helpful). They suggested a nerve block for me (not sure about the details) + were going to try to get my insurance to cover the lidocaine ā€œdripā€ thing. I guess it’s up to me which one to pursue first. Right now (assuming I don’t change my mind) I am set up to try the nerve block in a few weeks – receptionist says , ā€œbe there at 5:45ā€ā€¦ i assumed it was pm but apparently it’s 5:45 am lol.

The pain clinic i went to was at Stanford. Took me very seriously, were efficient, seemed to know their stuff. Such a contrast to some other doctors (mainly derms I guess) when I was just starting out – who would just scratch their heads and shrug and say ā€œmaybe it’s stress?ā€

I didn’t do well with topical lidocaine either, so that’s good to know that the lidocaine drip can be more effective!

Best wishes,

Cat

PS - That’s some crazy traffic!! I used to live in Los angeles and had to do a lot of deep breathing lol :stuck_out_tongue:

PS Patricia,

I searched the forum and think I read you had tried a stellate ganglion nerve block for your hand area? (Sorry if I am mistaken.) Was wondering if it helped you, if you had bad side effects from it, how it compared to lidocaine drip, etc.

Thank you so much! hope you are faring ok.

Hi Cat,
The Stellate ganglion block had absolutely no effect whatsoever. I did see some improvement with the lidocaine drip. It takes about 5 hours and can be hard on the heart. I’ve had 3 of them and only do it when I’ve had prolonged periods of burning and just can’t take it anymore.
Something interesting has happened. A few months ago after lots of research, I asked my dr. to add a low dose of cymbalta to the Lyrica and Mexilitine. The burning improved but I was still having flares late late in the day. I was having really bad Lyrica brain fog. Tried to reduce the doseage but the burning started up again. Then I asked my doc if there weren’t something I could take to help with the brain fog. He prescribed straterra (an adult ADD Med). The odd thing is the flares are GONE. I have very mild burning up my arms which I can ignore, but the bad flares are gone. Fingers crossed this continues. Hope this info helps. The lidocaine is wonderful but costs me $700, so I’m very glad and surprised that the protocol I’m on is working. Have pain free day. Patricia

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i should have checked this before I sent it. Spellcheck made some interesting words. P

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Lol re: autocorrect. Thanks for your reply. I am glad the ADD med is helping you! Who would have thought ?!? keep me posted on that!

Hi Cat, it’s still working. I might have made a scientific discovery! P

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Just read your question re how long the lidocaine infusion lasted. I just can’t remember exactly; but I’m guessing about 3 months or more. I know I wouldn’t have put myself through it if it hadn’t worked well. P

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Hi Patricia -

Thanks so much for your info. I got a lidocaine drip outpatient today (first time). It is helping! :slight_smile: One thing I’m concerned about - did you feel ā€œdrunkā€ during the drip. After the drip was done it got a lot better but still not exactly quick lol. I guess I wasn’t prepared for how much this would affect my cognitive abilities. Did you experience similar?

Is the straterra still helpful for you? hoping so.

-Cat

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Interesting, I have some of the MTHFR (whyyyyy did they have to name them that :rofl:) mutations and I respond horribly to SSRIs. One I took, by the fifth day I was sobbing uncontrollably for no reason. I knew I wasn’t sad but I couldn’t stop crying, I had to leave work. Obviously I stopped taking that. Prior to the sobbing on the fifth day, I was increasingly more emotional and erratic in behavior. Weird.