Sleeping Pills

My EM is now 4 months old and the flares during the day are still tolerable - at night it's starting to be a problem. I am not on any medications yet (aspirin doesn't help) and I am wondering why nobody has every mentioned taking a sleeping pill when things get bad at night.

Is there a reason that taking a sleeping medication could be a bad idea? It'll be another week before I get to see a doctor for the first time and am thinking about taking something to help me sleep if needed. If anybody has any ideas or experience please let me know.

Thanks

Domina

Hi Domina,

I struggle to get through the day and night by taking lots of sleeping tablets.Have had EM nearly a year. Its now widespread, chronic and disabled me. Sleepers have a place but they are not a permanent solution.I have found i need more and more for them in order to be slightly effective so wouldnt advocate them if not really really necessary. Natural remedies might help too- have you tried any OTC sleep remedies.

Sleeping tablets do not 'help the pain or flares' , they just drug you up- make you drowsy so you are sort of 'out of it'. I would try to see a specialist who can help you with trying possible medications. There is a tool kit of stuff that you could try which might ease things for you but unfortunately as we all know its trial/error AND lots of suffering pain.There is no specific treatment and to my knowledge no cure - although i have read couple accounts of temporary remission. EM needs a polypharmacy approach.From what i understand research suggests possible routes are serotonin antags or sodium channel blockers. However as EM such a refractory disease its a case of trying, trialing everything you can get your hands on. Have you joined TEA association or read Dr Cohens stuff?

God bless

Thinking of you

mads x

I had a hard time getting any sleep, and the stress from that and being so tired makes the EM worse. My Doctor has me on Trazadone for sleep. helps a lot. Sleep is important with any type of disorder and pain. When we don't sleep we get worse.

Thanks for your replies - I am just thinking to use a sleeping pill if things really get too bad until I see a neurologist next week - then I can hopefully work something out with him to help all the way around - reduce flare ups and pain.

I agree MsLovelyNikki
My doctor also has me on trazodone for sleep and it has helped a lot, I was on the verge of a breakdown when I finally was able to get a bit more sleep, although now it has been almost a year since I began this treatment and ai fear the benefits are starting to lessen, plus between trazodone and Gabapentin U have gain over 15k OMG!!!

Thanks dkel - I know how important sleep is that's why I want to have something I can take in case I encounter

painful nights again - one or even two in a row I'll deal with but then I want to take something

I have taken sleeping pills in fact my Neurologist prescribed them to me. Believe me, I do need them at times.

My Doctor prescribed 10mgs Amitriptyline as and when I need a good night .... Do not want to take them on a regular basis ... They are very effective but I still feel the affects the following day ..... So sheer desperation only ! xx

Hi, The first episode I ever had of flaring startled, no, freaked me out! Hot red to above the ankles bilaterally.. you know! My partner Danny is a paraplegic and used to take Valerian (a ground flower root in a capsule) for spasms (it worked). For some reason he said try one. I did. In about 30 minutes the flaring was improving, and pretty much gone in an hour. I of course began to have more and more episodes, and now they are near 24/7. So I read about Valerian - it works on the nerves, and is specifically recommended for sleep (a very very mild dose is in Celestial Seasoning's Sleepytime Extra tea). It is NOT well-studied, but seems to be accepted by many mainstream drug sites as being ok to take. The capsules come in 400mg, but I break them down to 100-150mg because I don't trust any meds. I only take one at night to sleep, on the most agitated nights when cooling doesn't touch it. But it does seem to let me get to sleep for at least 4 hours, sometimes more. By then, my feet are often slightly improved just by being early morning.

I find the Valerian not as effective on flares as that first time, but still useful. I wouldn't go over (well, I won't even go near) the recommended dose. I won't take one every day. Ask your doctor.

Thank you Jane. I found something in the meantime - NATRA SLEEP - a herbal supplement. It contains Passion Flower, Lemon Balm Herb Extract, Valerian Root Extract and Chamomile Flower. I have taken it only twice on nights when I realized that my flares were too strong to get any sleep. They don't knock me out but they seem to relax me enough to fall asleep about 1 hour after taking the pill (I only take one, the bottle recommends 2) and since it usually is already around midnight I sleep until about 4 or 5 in the morning. By then the flare is gone , I take my thyroid pill and go back to sleep. But I'll have a look what your tea is all about - because *valium* is something not to mess around with.

Take care.

Thanks Domina - actually I said Valerian, not valium. Valerian (which NATRA SLEEP, I see, also has,) is a flower root, while valium is a synthetic controlled-substance drug. Your supplement sounds very interesting to me!

Jane

Oh - I thought Valerian had something to do with Valium - just because it sounded similar. So, I learned something again and that makes me feel even better about taking Natra Sleep because I know what Valium (given to him while in Hospital) did to my husband 30 years ago. My Sleep pills smell horrible (don't know why) and I have to wash my hands after having touched the pill and eat something or gargle to get this smell out of my mouth. But other than that I have not felt any strange after/side effects and was bright-eyed and bushy-tailed in the morning after I had taken one.

Ina

Hi Domina, Scientists haven't done the research, but they think Valerian MAY work in a similar way to valium, only at a very much lower level. So your thinking wasn't illogical - I just wanted you to know they aren't the same. And the bad smell IS definitely the valerian. I agree - I have to wash my hands whenever I take some!!! Awful!!!

Jane